interesting find concerning java

found this on google...

http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=161816

looks like sprint is trixy trixy. or bad liars....

They are working on the keyboard issue, and it will be fixed soon.  This will open the doors to Opera, google maps, IM, and other programs that need the keyboard fixed.  The legal issues are interesting though...

Do some searching on the site, and also look at the Sprint Developer's forums (just type sprint developers in google and it will give u the link).  This keyboard issue has been discussed alot.  Sprint officially said they are working on it.

Yup I'm def. agreeing with that. If they were to come into compliance with java standards right now, they would be giving away $20k to a company or person who's java app will work for every java phone out there.

I'm going to bed right after Aug 29th, we will see an update. If they were to change things right now, itd be a marketing disaster.

That must be the update due at the end of august. they were smart to do that. not only do they get a lot of instinct only apps they get them in a short amount of time. thus getting their offerings closer to what the iphone already has.

i 100% agree with this thread.  In that article it clearly states that the phone HAS the LCDUI (keyboard interface) written into the phone, it simply is not turned on.  Meaning it has the capability to do so and why the lack of comments from sprint seem to be oddly not-approaching this issue first and foremost.  The application updates recently do not seem to be doing much other than making them work a bit more effortlessly with the sprint network.  They put a crappy browser on the phone to simply satisfy the needs of consumers until after august, in which when LCDUI is activated opera mini will be then available (probably 4.1 will work seemlessly too).  The new apps strictly written for the Instinct will be almost a proprietary implementation to only the Instinct... and who knows this might be a good thing.  But the fact remains it is in a selfish act from Sprint.  I will almost bet everything I own to hold true to the fact that we will see the LCDUI update immediately following the end of the developers contest.  Sprint will not lose out assuming these simple facts... 1)  the tech savy people will want, wait, and wish for this feature which will be eventually activated... 2)  the non-tech savy sprint users will just be impressed with the built in browser and how it does more than there last phone.

Sprint is doing this to boast sales of the Instinct with (what they are hoping...) useful applications that use independent minds to create what they really want, and that will be different and proprietary to Sprint's Instinct.  Hence the fact they altered and built the OS themselves.  They implemented these restrictions on purpose and will un-restrict them when they are ready.  Anyone who says this is really a hard feat to accomplish (getting a java standard keyboard to work) is simply not the case.  Neither was the purpose of putting a crappy/under-developed browser on the phone.  They simply did not worry about the browser... because why would they?  They wouldn't want to develop a great browser which would probably not be on par with opera and would be a waste of R&D to code it.  All the other functions of the phone work GREAT.  Some server errors here and there, but for the most part the phone only locks up on webpages and the silly text glitch.  Sprint TV has been updated twice and even the news videos are working more streamlined.  I think most of the glitches are worked out EXCEPT browser function and the Java keyboard.  These 2 facts alone leave me to think this really was a planned venture and it will all be resolved within a month.... mark my words, lol.

is it just me or is this website down

Define soon.  I have been reading this forum for 3 solid weeks now and I have read back to July, when promises were made, then broken, then new promises were made (by Sprint), then broken.

I wouldn't be surprised if this Java issue continued into early 2009.

I think at min they will wait a month, I mean, they wanna make the money once the apps are released, they gotta give it a little time